all that handful of birthers down there, which is the heart of them, don't they get the irony that accusing obama of being born in kenya, which wasn't the truth, would still make him a natural born american? >> yeah, the real problem for the birthers is that ted cruz really was born in a foreign country and so based on that argument, it really is a real, you know, a real problem. >> don't they get in their head, oh, we've been accusing obama of what this guy did, and we've accused obama by nature of being born in this fictitious notion of being born in kenya. >> i'm going to propose they absolutely get it, chris. and you know why as well as anyone else who watches this closely. this never really was about obama being born somewhere. this was just say something bad about obama. the black guy in the white house who must be from somewhere else. now they find themselves, especially the folks in texas, who i suspect will like to endorse ted cruz if he becomes a serious presidential candidate.